Thursday, November 17, 2005

For the Restless.

For anyone who is currently restless waiting for me to continue in the series on Philosophical Arguments for the Existence of God I invite you to the the Jumbled Rumblings of Ryan Simmons who hosts the Radio Show Beyond The Bubble for Cedarville University. He has just published a related post on evolution. Go check out. For more information on when I am continuing in the series and my delay in it check out the comments on the last post.

4 Comments:

At 10:49 AM, Blogger Joe said...

I went over there and posted a comment (when did I ever not?), liked the post a lot.

 
At 11:21 AM, Blogger John said...

Joe,
You are very faithful commenter :)

 
At 11:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

John, (I added this post to the linked Blog also)

I did not intend to insult anyone. I tend to be frank, it is just my personality. I see I am dealing with some very intelligent folks here; therefore, I will try to keep intellectualism the highest priority. Again, I do not mean to insult anyone but this level of dialog is not what I am accustom to when dealing with Christians. In my experience I have seen a major difference in the ability to debate between fundamentalist and non fundamentalist Christians. In my experience this is due to a need to debunk evolution for all the wrong reasons. They don’t want it to be true rather then caring about the scientific validity. I’m not saying that is the case here but I always start with how one feels about evolution rather then what one thinks about it. I think it is important to ask yourself what attitude you had toward evolution to begin with. If I approached the question to God’s existence assuming that God did not exist and bent on finding the evidence to support my conviction would you have a problem with that? Perhaps you wouldn’t, but personally, I don’t like that approach to science and think it is dishonest. Again, I’m not saying that is the case here.

Can I answer your technical questions on evolution? I can try, but I’m not a biologist so perhaps you’re asking the wrong people.

My name is Benjamin Otto, you may remember me. I was going to stay anonymous because of the fact you know me. However, I guess it is more fair to you this way.

 
At 7:01 PM, Blogger John said...

On Evolution it threatens me in no way nor does it really address the issue of God. It goes against the Bible. and against biblical Christianity. There is alot to say on evolution I am not threatened by it. But my problem is its presented just as fact. It really is more philosophy and theory but its never presented that way and people who don't look at that way and looked down upon with out reason. It is just not that simple not and it is not an open and shut issue. To see good scholoarlly stuff put together trying present every view by both sides is Intelligent Design and Evolution and Is Critics by edited Pennock. I had just so you know this book is not slanted I got at my every secular university for my Science and Religion class at Kent State. It looks both at the Science and Philosophy of the issues. It show all the views on both extremes and everything in between. But anyway I don't want to stuck on evolution

To also reply to your what you said I likewise have met people who beleive evolution simply because they want to. Not because they looked at the fact or just becauses they seen in their school books but it does not mean its true. For example the man who won the nobel prize for discovering the double helix said its looks like it must have been designed but the reason I know its not is because there is no God. It was his commintment to naturalism that would rule out what he first natural conclusion thought. SO don't think that people reject based on their beliefs are Christians. Naturalist do it too. They also have a very condencending attitude for too. Thinking people who do not agrees with them are ignorant when they really can't justify their beleif in evolution. I know when I used to beleive it that was the case for me. I used to put down Christians with out cause and did not look at the issues. I know that I beleived in evolution it did not really make sense to me but gave me an answer to a question I could not other wise answer when I had my own self imposed commitment to atheism and philosophical naturalism. But anyway like I said I dont want to get stuck on evolution. Although I in no way think MACROevolution is true what so every.

Thanks for not being anonymous. Its nothing against you but I have seen things grossly degenerate in other blogs where people can be anonymous and say all sorts of inflamitory things. Anyway you mentioned you were in a philosophy department I'd be interested in knowing where just out of curiousity because I took a number of philosphy classes at Kent for Religion minor.

Look forward to talking more.
-John

 

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